Rovato invaded by thousands of black feathers
Last week-end Rovato one is populated of thousands of black feathers that, pacifically, have taken possession of the centre civic and monopolised the attention of the citizens of the capital franciacortina. The occasion of the immense meeting place has been the provincial what of that is one of the military bodies between most loved at the people. Thousands the alpine ones that in the Sunday day have ended up, like each year, in order that the own belonging to be said hallo and to clinch to the group and to his values.
The celebrations are started by a long procession that, leaving in morning from the new seat of the section Ana di Rovato inaugurated really for the occasion in road Martinengo, has reached in a first moment square Garibaldi. Really here the passing has been stopped in one of the rotundas to inaugurate a monument in onre black feathers.
The work wrapped in the tricolour one, has been revealed by the group Ana rovatese to the presence of a fed public between whom Francesco Paolo Tronca was representing also the prefect of Brescia, the national vice-president Ana (and rovatese) Alexander Rossi and the provincial president Davide Forlani; she consists in a massif from granite of the weight of quite 25 tonnelate over which Alice Casali, well-known artist of Brescia, has appended the typical alpine headgear with the coats of arms of five groups of existing black feathers after the World War II.
Between the hosts to signal also the presence of Vladimir Metzekov, military attached of the Russian embassy in Italy, which has wanted to clinch him by now consolidated friendship that passes between Russia and our alpine ones from the conclusion of the World War II.
The procession has left again then to square Garibaldi and it has reached square Cavour following between the applause course Bonomelli. It joints in the central square of the country the official speeches of the institutions have begun involved (the mayor rovatese Cottinelli and the provincial Ass. Sala) and local vertices of the alpine ones.
To follow the setting has been celebrated by Don Angelo Bazzari in the open, to whom one is succeduto a joyous banquet in the area covered with the Cattle market with the presence of more than thousand persons.
Between the groups he presents Ana, as well as those of the section (very numerous), the delegations of the section have been signalled camuna, of that one of Lake Garda, of Milan, Como, Bergamo, Piacenza and Cremona. Nice and significant also the presence of a flag of the alpine section of the South Africa.
With the evening lowering of the flag the alpine ones have greeted each other also this year and rendezvous has been given for June 7 2009 to the near muster dissect that will comply with Borgosatollo.
June 4th, 2008 to 6:54 am
A beautiful holiday is peculiar.
the alpine ones have demonstrated still once of being a great association, can do the things for good.
June 4th, 2008 to 1:04 pm
The perfect. Honour to the alpine ones.
June 4th, 2008 to 1:43 pm
Already the same ones that have been sent to die in Russia at a Fascist madman's who was considering himself of being omnipotent.
I were alpine that now carry out operations of social solidarity and of welcome, when boor was avoiding more racism of the one who has a so little testolina not to understand that the wars of a time are peculiar been born by that.
June 4th, 2008 to 2:40 pm
@xyz
You have broken up!
June 4th, 2008 to 3:13 pm
Expensive you have said forgetful XYZ: "Already the same ones that have been sent to die in Russia at a Fascist madman's who was considering himself of being omnipotent.”
If this is your key of reading of the history, I believe that it you is not null aggiugere if not child's.
in any case, for the chronicle, the whole Italy was Fascist.
hello beautiful
June 4th, 2008 to 4:57 pm
According to me, the alpine ones in Russia, had been sent to free it from the communism.
June 4th, 2008 to 5:06 pm
possible what without communist and Fascist does not manage to be discussed anything???
June 4th, 2008 to 7:33 pm
It keeps on nibbling, “citizen“ xyz.
June 4th, 2008 to 10:32 pm
I do not believe to be corrected to discuss alpine ones in these terms, the speech on the alpine ones is something of complex much with perplexity and remarkable curiosities, to prtire the distrust of the black feathers towards the white feathers.
the one who has done the naja without forgetting what he has seen to Malles and Vipiteno and the called one will remember Merano “before the mules and behind official garlic” and he will remember terrible episodes, the captain thrown by the window to absurd and shameful behaviours tolerated by the superiors towards the "burbe", you give gavettoni water to those of mule piss, the steaks 'relieved' by marshals and others, the stupidity of instructions NBC that they were suggesting in case of atomic explosion of two dig a hole ocn the shovel at his disposal, (single straight thing under the naja according to the places in order that sarebeb served twist) profound mtri, give one liberally and long one and means there to enter and ricoprisri avoiding the fall out, when a banal calculation was demonstrating that running to feet in the same period of time (the officers who were not digging were saying that two hours were enough) there could become at least twelve kilometres avoiding it really if one was close to the epicentre.
the absurdity is that so many people would have paid qualsisasi number (and many people did it so much that a rovatese alcuini years ago is finished in prison) in order that rimpiangon does not become alpine and own this that period
this for the recent past and that the thing is stranba it is the fact that seems to me the enormous majority (I hit the centre of left right hand) it has never had doubts about the suppression of the naja.
for the past it is remembered that the war of Russia, like the great war distribnuì medals and honours to the generals and slaps on the backs and kicks in bottom to the returned ones: someone has doubts it tries to read the books of Lussu. the stories of Mario Rigoni Stern and the testimonies of whom as Don Gnocchi has seen the war
the true drama is that then like now the poor ones (alpine of naja) always spitted the blood trusting a category to say not much unprepared: in Russia Napoleon, more grand egenerale of all the times, lost the empire for his first vastness and his winter anchor than for the courage of the one who was defending his country
possible that generals and officers were not knowing it? or perhaps was more useful to the career to be silent and to send the alpine ones to the slaughterhouse?
the dignity and the courage of the alpine ones cannot make forgetting, of course, the generals' responsibilities and state greater than lil condarrono to death for their lack of mental honesty.
June 5th, 2008 to 6:16 am
Have I broken up eh? Does it give trouble to be felt to say that for a period of twenty years a bald dictator has sent the Italy to the retting-pit of an alliance with a madman like him in Germany truth? These are the data actually. Racial laws, change of electoral law, homicides of state (you see Matteotti), delations in each country in order to make arresting the one who was not thinking it like them. this was the Italy under that bald dwarf.
And there is still the one who it sings hymns. But go to refuge!
June 5th, 2008 to 6:44 am
a thing is sure to the majority of the alpine ones in Russia, the Fascism was not interesting, of course.
a lot of they were a simple people, they had received the order of going and they have gone, there were other times, nobody would have dreamt of discussing them.
a great deal of them in returning have enlarged the rows of the resistance and others have refused to fight to the side of the Germans.
this one will want to say nevertheless something.
June 5th, 2008 to 7:16 am
Expensive XYZ, I know it that there does not enter not at all with the alpine ones that I appreciate perhaps the majority for folklore and value that for ability, but this is my most personal opinion of which I ask for apology if someone was feeling himself offended.
The popoulismo and the ignorance that you demonstrate is straordianaria, nobody defends the Chief but to liquidate 20 important years of Italian history as you do is, as said some other one, child's one.
Importing it does not mean in way favourable but noticing by the destinies of the national history.
I invite you to eavesdrop as I have already made with those from FI this document, listen to it without prejudices and perhaps you will understand something, that the history is not white or black.
good day
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June 5th, 2008 to 7:19 am
I will listen to it with interest and really without prejudices. I say only that no economic progress obtained with a total regime will never find my consent.
June 5th, 2008 to 7:43 am
No, absolutely. You have not broken XYZ. So doing, as well as doing me sbellicare at the laughter, you are losing that bit of intellectual dignity that you have. Ridiculous to think that Mussolini has sent the Alpine ones to die - intentionally - in the Russian steppes. Otherwise, murderers and sanguinary madmen were also Alexander Magno, Julio Caesar, Napoleon and each another leader. In war not all the soldiers can survive: this does not mean that they are “a meat with cannon”, but inevitable is that someone of them dies. The Alpine ones, heroically, defended themselves and fought face to face with the own adversary. Many people, too many people perished on the Russian front.
Honour to the Alpine ones.
June 5th, 2008 to 8:20 am
Without a dictator, because if someone had forgotten it Mussolini was a dictator, that had authorised a wicked alliance with the Nazi Germany no alpine or not alpine intaliano that was would have gone dying in the Russian steppe. The one who says the contrary one lies knowing of lying. I head and to head.
June 5th, 2008 to 9:32 am
There was a very high post in game: or the victory of the Axis and then the elevation of the Italy to Empire, to superpower then, or the defeat and that is the Anglo-American domination (that tutt' ’today lasts, is militarily that culturally). The army of the Third Reich was the best, the most powerful and nobody would have imagined his defeat. To unite to Hitler was the most sensible thing and to judge it with the sense of then is very easy: the Italy, for his geographic conformation and for several geopolitical alliances, had another choice only combatttere to the side of the Germany National Socialist.
In an interview, the young journalist Luigi Romersa charged by Mussolini to investigate the new secret Hitler weapons, asserted: "Mussolini, with whom I had many talks, was always shaken by the innumerable deaths of Italian soldiers and it was hoping that the war could finish these new weapons finally […]”.
The same Mussolini, in the last days before dying, asserted in an interview: "The truth is one: I had not Hitler's pressures. Hitler had already won the continental game. It was not needing us. But it was not possible to remain neutral if we wanted to maintain that equality position with the Germany that until then we had had. The pacts with Hitler were the most clear. I have had and have for him the maximum estimate. It is necessary to distinguish between Hitler and some his men the majority in sight […]”.
June 5th, 2008 to 9:48 am
The very cock-ups. First of all before the entrance in war someone forgets that in Italy was a regime and this is enough for me to say that all the his government choices will never justify the loss of freedom of the citizens. In the second place any government that chooses the war to make itself known is better than it goes away to house. And with guilty delay l they have understood also in Italy.
June 5th, 2008 to 10:01 am
Perhaps you have not well understood that for the Fascist regime, there was the very consent. As he makes noticing FORGETFULLY, rightly: "the whole Italy was Fascist”. Few ones were the dissidents and that few ones that the foruno, between whom Togliatti, in 1936 they wrote nell’ “appeal of the PCI to the brothers in black shirt”:
” […] the communists do really the Fascist program in 1919, that is a program of peace, of freedom, of defence of the interests of the workers […] let's Fight united for the carrying out of this program … FASCIST OF the OLD GUARD! FASCIST YOUTH! We proclaim that we are ready for fighting with you FASCIST WORKER, we give you the hand in order that we want to build with to you the Italy of the work and of the peace, and give you the hand in order that we are, like you, children of the people, are your brothers, have the same interests and the same enemies, give you the hand because the hour that we live is heavy, and if we do not join suddenly we will be dragged all in the collapse [.] we give you a hand in order that we want to make her ended up the hunger and the oppression. It is time to take the truncheon against the capitalists who have divided us, in order that they return to us all that they have taken out.”
The consent, then, was almost a total.
The same consent what there was lasting the war declarations, had to to the Mussolini cry “and we will win!” the crowd answered with a noisy one “itself!”.
June 5th, 2008 to 10:02 am
* they were
June 5th, 2008 to 10:04 am
@ Matteo T
and that is, here does it unite with the one who might win?
there does not it enter really not at all if it is just or less?
the alliance to the Germany us has led practically in cloth embers, but sopratutto it is not absolutely truth that it was not possible to remain neutral, we say also that the government of then he was thinking to be the part of the lion seeing the first victories obtained by the German army.
and if we had joined Allied garlic?
Truth is peculiar each one interprets the history like the majority does to him comfort.
June 5th, 2008 to 10:24 am
Number. Obviously there was an ideal affinity, not alone soldier, with the National Socialism.
June 5th, 2008 to 10:26 am
Gentile Matteo, I recognise the courage of his ideas, based on a serious historical analysis but perhaps not much nostalgic.
In Italy as in few ones other nations today a revisionism based on history and not on odii ideological sterile stà re-analysing the figure of the chief showing not only the very errors but also the eriti which still today we enjoy.
The laws raziali were an unbearable disgrace of which the King made himself a responsible person sopratutto emanating them, but the board is valued trying to insert it into the historical context that the Europe was living, far on the time and in the reality that today we live.
I invite her not to have to drag, in any case, in distribe with users like XYZ who tend to make banal become extremely serious and still today delicate to deal.
The patience and the farsightedness will be awarded when an analysis really serious is able to be drafted on those years and this will be the signal of a society finalmete ripe.
Cordiality
June 5th, 2008 to 10:42 am
I take note that the serious analyses are only his. But give me the pleasure.
The consent about whom the invasato talks here over was so wide that it was necessary to have held on a modification of the electoral law (he reminds of someone something?) into whom actually an incredible one entered I press of majority for the party that had won the elections with at least 25 %. Does anyone remind of it himself the law Unripe in 1923 or you are running all in Internet to see what was it?
And the speech to the Parliament of the chief who admitted the responsibilities for the Fascism in the homicide of the deputy Matteotti who denounced the violence committed in the electoral campaign of 1924?
The invasato here above knows the measures emanated in 1926 that were sanctioning the dissolution of the parties of opposition, the replacement of the mayors elected democratically with the power of royal appointment, the abolition of the right of strike, the juridical recognition to the alone Fascist trade unions!
More and more invasato here above does it know that in 1928 the new electoral law subordinated definitively the Chamber to the Fascism, substituting the universal suffrage with a plebiscite on a single list of candidates proposed by the confederations of the Fascist trade unions and givers of work?
Maids what do we keep on discussing also with her mister Lorenzo?
June 5th, 2008 to 11:46 am
it knows to me that I will begin not to enter any more into this site … each notice that is given is a motive for used 4/5 invaded (on the one hand and other one) of provoking political squabbles … YOU ARE PATHETIC!!!!
June 5th, 2008 to 11:48 am
@ Matteo T
you know perfectly what type of consent was, if you had not the card you were not working, could not maintain a family, in short there was certainly the one who was believing us, but there was also the one who (the greatest part) must yield to these blackmails.
many people have emigrated in those years.
we do not talk then about elections and consent, it is sure what you could understand
@ Lorenzo
which an ugly judgement!
@ xyz:
you might show better your convictions / ideas with a little more serenity, without taking anything out to what you say.
a serious discussion on the history of those years would be really a good thing, but it is not possible to be thought that it should be done to a slogan sound.
the totalitarismi (all), have been rejected by the history.
June 5th, 2008 to 11:48 am
The squabbles are of those who for strength want to impose the own ideas without never subdistinguishing them with facts that could demonstrate the real validity it. On important questions as the democracy in our country it is not possible starsene it hissed.
June 5th, 2008 to 11:49 am
really this was an article about the alpine ones to Rovato.
we have gone a little too many OT.
June 5th, 2008 to 12:02 pm
Since you have used to use, like shape of respect, I will use Gentile Lorenzo also in his comparisons.
Nevertheless without agreeing, for evident ideological questions, but, in any case, you do not dictate presumed nostalgismo, on the analysis of the racial laws of you done, I can declare well that one is a profound intellectual honesty in his reflexions. Inanzitutto is perfectly in syntony with his thought of historical, free revisionism at each party - ideological infiltration. In the second place, as far as it concerns the relations with the "democratic" users that, care is taken, of democrat they have nothing, I will try not to make degenerating the discussions even if - as it is obvious - it is always almost this political faction to label not conformable minds with epithets as "invasato" or “ignorant person“ and, then, to do from a debate on up-to-dateness a historical polemic.
Yours faithfully.
June 5th, 2008 to 12:11 pm
XYZ, on the laws and on the measures of Mussolini, is obvious that from the birth of the Fascism there is not a will able to support the democratic system, but a clear and obvious intervention of establishment of a total regime. Not at random the 'total' term was minted by the same Fascist print and today used improperly by the mass media.
What you do not manage to understand - and what you should to me explain - is like never the Italian People is united completely by the Fascism and, absolutely in ‘36, Togliatti, to name of the PCI, writes a verbose one ‘named to the ‘brothers in black shirt’ almost to want to declare friendship and solidarity to the same 'repressive' regime.
June 5th, 2008 to 12:59 pm
IN ORDER THAT NOT ALLIES OF FRANCE AND ENGLAND
Perhaps we do not remember the SANCTIONS in ‘35 / 36
But sopratutto of the treatment received to the peace of 1918.
We forget 600.000 dead men the tens of thousands of injured
France and England itself papparono all the German colonies.
River should be had freed from the dared ones of Dannunzio.
To remember this does not mean to be Fascist.
June 5th, 2008 to 1:02 pm
What wrote Togliatti and on as it was interpreted certainly it is not questionable in 3 lines of post. It is me who instead I claim to understand how it is possible to accept also only the idea of sharing a comma of a total regime. The phrase “is obvious that from the birth of the Fascism there is not a will able to support the democratic system, but a clear and obvious intervention of establishment of a total regime” has been done by it to me to geld the skin! I say no and convintamente the one who tries to justify also only half a word of the Fascism and the history of the land reclamation of state to Aprilia please let's not draw even outside.
June 5th, 2008 to 1:08 pm
I still remember that at the dawn of the hitler mussolini power it was nearer to francia and inghilterra so much it is truth that mussolini it was opposed initially against the attachment of the austria.
the end of the first world war was managed malissimo and was the francia greed and inghilterra to create the preambles of a turbulent post military period.
the peace made to sign to the Germans with the attached humiliating conditions was a heavy error from the winners of the first world war.
June 5th, 2008 to 1:13 pm
But stop following it xyz. An article about the gathering of the alpine ones they have gone on to the Fascism. Done connection fords a little bit xyz. LET IT LOSE!
June 5th, 2008 to 1:14 pm
Being part of a soldiers' Association in leave
of Groups rovatesi what they have announced with their flags
either to Saturday flag alza on May 31, or to the passing of
on Sunday 1st June, I regret of the fact that is not
there been done no mention for our presence done in
honour own of the alpine ones. To the near one.
June 5th, 2008 to 1:22 pm
And the one who wants to draw it outside! The land reclamation of the marshes was one less important if it is compared to the great work of constitution of a social state to the vanguard that, to the next day of the end of the war, was knocked down practically by the 'paladins' (sic!) of the proletariat. The same 'paladins' who, like first action of government of the new Republic, eliminated the law about the socialisation of the enterprises.
As far as it regards the Togliatti appeal, it is to be interpreted it a little. And, as, it is to be minimised it a little: "it is not questionable in 3 lines of post”, you have written. Perhaps because you do not know any more how to counter.
June 5th, 2008 to 1:36 pm
Do not you know any more how to counter? I have not seen particular answers to the indications on the electoral laws "piloted" to have consent.
If not must suppose that there has been a regime in Italy. And like such a refusal any attempt of his justification.
June 5th, 2008 to 1:43 pm
in order that we do not apply the repression totalitaristica and send marcoT and xyz to discuss on marcot-xyz.org of communist and Fascist??
June 5th, 2008 to 1:43 pm
ah, LIVE THE ALPINE ONES!
June 5th, 2008 to 1:44 pm
@FRANCO:
the sanctions of France and England have been done with exact motives and not for taken party. (Franc, he endorses your venerable age you should know).
besides this leaves the time that it finds, in the sense, alleti of these no for the sudden sanctions, allies of the Germans yes after a war fought against.
for polite, to.
@Matteo Ton
social state to the vanguard??? which?? where??
June 5th, 2008 to 1:48 pm
I quote mongoose!
June 5th, 2008 to 2:19 pm
@ AB
Damn you have discovered to me!
Not sò if you are venerable as me, but you know how it goes
the history: yesterdays enemies today friends.
A cordial greeting.
June 6th, 2008 to 3:14 pm
They have swiped the tricolour one from me!
I had bought three of them, beautiful flags of the vivid tones that light the mind, and they were exposed to the house frames in zone caporovato.
When the alpine ones passed, I was counting of reutilizing them for the football Europeans, instead …
they have swiped the tricolour triple one from me.
THIEVES!, return the ill-gotten gains and recover the native honour!
Fair-haired ammosciato