Rovato: the run by the Municipality crosses from the roads. But also You Tube
Gazebo, leaflets, the expensive obvious old men to attach to the wall. tools exceeded in an electoral campaign of the third millennium?
What we are seeing in these days to Rovato tells us that the reality is less "technological" than here might be waited.
The first formalities chosen by the lists at present in field - Rovato Civica on the one hand, other the House of the Freedom allied to Social Rebirth of the ex-mayor Roberto Manenti - have regarded in fact the building manifestos.
Civic Rovato has chosen to go on on the road traced out in 2002: it returns in fact the toy train, the slogan becomes “Rovato I love you still”. Blue background, figures orange: a strategy done from few words tightened to claim all that done in these five years for the capital franciacortina (the Informagiovani to the hall for the music, from the parks to the unvaried taxes, of the social services and for the family increased to 18ore of continuous patrolling from the Local Police) was conclusive at a common slogan: "NOT AT ALL CHATS MUCH WORK. I CONTROL COTTINELLI“.
E. on the technologies? As well as the reopening of the site www.rovatocivica.it (that nevertheless contains for now only the building manifestos, the letter in whom Andrew Cottinelli communicates his will of presenting as a candidate again and a compartment e-mail), the certainly more interesting novelty goes up again to a few days ago.
As anticipated rovato.org, the list of the toy train has activated in fact an own specific canal on You Tube, the most famous Internet site in whom it is possible to insert freely the own videos of goni family.
To our days two are the disposable videos: a normal presentation and a version “rock“ where, with the foundation of “The kids aren' ’ton alright” of the punk-rock band American "Offspring", the mayor Cottinelli welcomes all the users.
I cost zero, covering almost global and good catching ability on the juvenile world, perhaps also on the numerous university students of Rovato that live great part of the year to Padova, Milan or Bologna: the idea of Rovato Civica is certainly a significant novelty as far as it regards the way of communicating politics at local level.
It remains still to understand if the canal will be used only to promote electoral spots or if instead it will be used for activating also a dialogue between electors and elected (candidates).
Same it asks - or rather the interaction degree with the voted users - it will be put to the House of the "widened" Freedom of Rovato.
The supporters of Alexander Conter have given in fact life to a traditional site: www.rovatodelleliberta.com. The address to our days is still in construction phase, so much it is that it appears only screened initially.
The symbol chosen by the coalition between centre and right-wing parties rovatese for the own electoral campaign is “Leo“, a little winged lion of blue colour that will be in all probability the conductive thread of next months as far as it regards the CdL. Also the chosen slogan recalls still the new mascot: "UNITED TO HELP IT TO GROW”.
The name, “Leone Alato“, retakes actually an expensive polemic in last years to numerous minority advisors, and particularly to the manentiano Emanuele Rossi: the modification, from the addition Cottinelli, of the name of the communal bulletin of information, which into the passage between the ex-mayor Manenti and Cottinelli has been transformed by “The winged lion” to be simply “The lion”.
Little skirmishes that, in fact, do not hide the simplest truth: in the middle of so many technology - if used not for creating one I exchange kind with the users, but only like additional shape of publicity at low price - impossible to renounce in the contact run with the electors, to door to door, the gazebo and the distribution of leaflets.
An example? This morning, to the inauguration of Lombardy Meat, two political connections - Rovato Civica and Cdl more Manenti, person's present time for good part of the morning - are arranged to few tens of metres on the Glacises Don Minzoni to themselves with much of flags, adhesive and cards.
A certainly intelligent way to maintain in the centre of the own conduct the citizens, those in meat and bones. Or rather, those that, a tomorrow, will become the new “givers of work” of the near mayor of Rovato.
March 25th, 2007 to 3:25 pm
It is very happy that the politicians rovatesi do not remain anchored in the past, I hope what they all understand that Internet is a means and not a purpose
To Rovato we will have elections very much. 2.0
March 25th, 2007 to 5:26 pm
I am much less optimistic.
Now like Internet hour it is used only like means of electoral marketing, pure electoral propaganda.
that it is a beautiful thing, nevertheless it is not enough.
now we must wait for next weeks when they all "interlock" the fifth one. for now, the single site that gives a minimum (but minimum …) of dialogue between user and manager of the site be that of the league North, what let say the own one on the problems of the countries.
As for the rest. zero. The communication always goes to an alone direction: Politics — Citizen, but the contrary one.
We hope for future developments.*
Daniele
March 25th, 2007 to 6:49 pm
We do not forget that not all the electors use Internet, on the contrary if I must do an estimate from the electors rovatesi that will be informed in electoral campaign about the web I would not go over 15 %. Perhaps also therefore several lists do not make so much for the means.
March 25th, 2007 to 6:53 pm
Naturally technological always remains "our" Robertino. You try to write in google “social rebirth” … not prominent site …
March 26th, 2007 to 6:30 am
the communication tools will arrive also to rovato run with to candidates … aspetate anchor a little bit that they will reach! I think that the communication is important citizen - candidate for both parts. for the citizen who can show his problems and for the candidate who realises which necessities to be responsible …
March 26th, 2007 to 6:59 am
I wanted to signal that at almost one year our very rudimentary site is active but that it allows to contact us and to express to each citizen who wanted to make it the own opinion and why not also the own criticism in our comparisons.
The site is:
http://xoomer.virgilio.it/dsmachina
The email to whom each citizen can find us is: dsrovato@bresciaonline.it
Besides, the notsra sat in Square Palestro 18 at Rovato it is opened every Sunday morning to the one who wanted to exchange some opinions in absolute freedom, independently as he thinks it politically speaking.
Besides, for whom he was knowing me of person, be counted also personally: on the grounds of the engagements of each meeting he is never refused anybody.
Angelo Bergomi
Secretary DS Rovato.
March 26th, 2007 to 7:01 am
TOO BEAUTIFUL
http://www.google.com/search? q=rinascita sociale
The first result is salamhouse.org … that is significant I would say
a little how to say HOUSE ABOUT the SALAMI
March 26th, 2007 to 7:07 am
But beautiful all that is “LEO“ … Compliment for the idea!!!
March 26th, 2007 to 7:09 am
Without offence for anybody but here do they talk about technology and the DS present to themselves with that thing with the headline “Wizard“??
To sto point misses only what they signal also http://aldomassimorossi.blogspot.com and the most beautiful rovato sites we have put all of them
… or almost 
March 26th, 2007 to 8:54 am
Since I had premise our site is very homemade simply because with the engagements of work of each one it is difficult to find the time to realise a little more professional one of them.
In contrast to other political forces than if only they have more economic possibilities and / or in time there we are built the site without leaning against any webmaster and in the lengths of this time it is all that one has been able to produce.
The intention, in fact, was of having a transparence tool towards the citizens and that he lets pick up their instances. If the site will not be the maximum of the professionalism, patience, you will forgive us: the objective of the site was not to win an informatics competition.
Direttico DS Rovato
March 26th, 2007 to 9:42 am
PUBBLICITÀ
You excuse if I interfere in the discussion, but all I cannot advise to to exploit free products as:
- Wordpress (http://www.wordpress.org)
- Drupal (http://drupal.org)
- Joomla (http://www.joomla.org/)
and other so many people, which let create a professional solution in 10 minutes (obviously it depends on all that loves to itself to personalise)
You can find also template ready and free on: http://www.oswd.org /
These obviously are only some examples and are not turned to the DS or other sites cited previously, there I am informing only that are a free software that allow you to make everything comfortably and also freely a (a space web should have put them to property pact)
If instead you want eidtare pages HTML on your pc be able to use quietly NVU (http://www.nvu.com/)
That we us are I go already off - topic and advise you to try also to smollare that windows accrocchio to look for some less expensive solutions and more performante, you might try for example:
http://www.ubuntu.com
http://www.debian.org
http://fedoraproject.org
http://www.opensuse.org
PURPOSE PUBBLICITÀ
March 26th, 2007 to 10:18 am
Since I have started the speech. I participate, not like author of the article but as rovatese and, that here are already, like student of political communication.
In Internet the sti must not lack purely informative or of utilisation. for example, that Ds (among other things, the link is some months also in our page of POLITICAL ROVATO), or the personal blog (like that of the doctor Aldo Rossi, but also other).
If nevertheless Internet not where to be only a tool, but also a new way to be able to do politics, is necessary to create spaces of real interaction between two parts in cause (political part - elector).
otherwise it is, I clinch it, marketing and prooaganda.
What they are not necessary to demonise, absolutely.
But, in my opinion, they bound the potentialities of utilisation of a great means of communication and INTERACTION of mass (in contrast to TV, radio and leaflets) which be the web.
Good navigation to all and all.
Daniele.
March 26th, 2007 to 12:15 pm
This one is absolutely truth. a forum, the commentaries on the pages, a wiki to write the program, posters proposed by the supporters …
there are only some ideas for a party really opened on the web
March 26th, 2007 to 4:31 pm
But you speak so much of Internet like important communication tool, but probably ignored the fact which good part of the fractions of Rovato should not have covering ADSL. The atuale administration is trying all of them for accordarasrsi with Telecom, and so on, but you know well that the telecom is not interested very much to cover a so little area, even if it would be a question only about a card change.
To the point gazebi, on Sunday morning I have devoted to myself from Leo's gazebo, to the question ”in what Social Rebirth consists” the answer has been:
1) you must wait for the one who is arriving of RS;
2) RS assembles persons of each political current, dx and sx, but it has appointed me only AN, League, Udc (but perhaps for him these are the single parties, I do not know): it is called social because it wants to be pawned in the social one;
3) the most interesting and pertinent: they all go to England in holiday when a modern country was keeping it, but there there is still the monarchy: do you want to have also the monarchy in Italy???
Really exhaustive: not that I wanted to be hidden by something, perhaps connected with the "social" term (you know, it evokes ugly memories).
Before thinking of Internet like canal for the politics we think to be able to tell with the people (dx and sx what should be).
March 26th, 2007 to 6:03 pm
is gunman, just what you say but if it is comfortable means in order that not to use them?? do you use the telephone or it brings you of person each time that you must say something?
March 27th, 2007 to 9:16 am
every very beautiful one … sinned which half Rovato, that one that evidently “does not count”, in 2007 must go to 56k and to sail on youtube and similar pure utopia is.
It is a little how to do a country from slogan and large stripes everywhere in an illiterate country.
March 27th, 2007 to 9:52 am
itself well, nevertheless the rest you see … the text can read it also with 56k
March 27th, 2007 to 10:27 am
For the gunman.
I do not ignore the fact that the fractions have these problems (also because, apart from the undersigned, another two members of the staff of rovato.org are of s.andrea and lodetto).
I believe nevertheless that the history says that Internet - today or tomorrow - will arrive to all the houses.
therefore a kind of “diffusion of literacy skills“ is necessary to Internet. a little how to learn to write.
the difference between the Web and other tools of comunic of mass it is not alone of quantity, but above all of quality.
it lets supplement, at ridiculous costs (often absolutely free), video, text, images. all of it with the possibility of a dialogue ON REAL TIME between user and manager.
it is not a science fiction, in part of Italy it is already a reality. For example, the civic net Hyperbola lets to Bologna sail freely in road and allows to the citizens to receive communications from the municipality and to the municipality of receiving complaints and advice of the citizens.
it does not work perfectly, but it is a first step. the digital nationality (that is the RIGHT to be able to enter the technologies) is an already present thing in our laws.
simply, nobody asks for it with strength.
and it is a sin, since a better utilisation of the Web would allow in many smaller sectors expenses and better services.
hello.
Daniele.
March 27th, 2007 to 11:48 am
Daniele your speech is the most just and it does not do a fold but:
“I believe nevertheless that the history says that Internet - today or tomorrow - will arrive to all the houses”
well, we would lack ourselves, but you will gather with me who up to 5 years ago you could do us from everything with 56k now no, Internet has been evolved, we number. Once the sites were all text with some images and now they it have remained in few ones (rovato.org is one of those:D), it is completely in flash, any films store … and now one asks also for more time to be before the pc. now here it is worked by Internet, one enters the own running account, is purchased, is sold, the bills are paid … it makes us to itself of everything. is truth, or today or tomorrow it will arrive everywhere, but it would be necessary to realise that we are really back, would have been better than that today or tomorrow it had been a "yesterday"
“simply, nobody asks for it with strength”
do you know how many persons have signed petitions thousands to have wide side in the own countries without any result? so many people, huge …
March 27th, 2007 to 12:04 pm
well, expensive diego. I and foja we have organised a harvesting of signatures to lodetto to ask the telecom of activating the service to us adsl. 180 the picked up signatures, 180 potential contracts only to lodetto. through the ass corbetta (two private citizens who can do?) them have sent to the telecom that after months of letters on which it was said that they will take a decision as to, we have not still had answered.
the hope (that is transformed in fact) is the wi-fi. as you know the province about brescia it has let out on contract to a company the covering of the zones not reached by the service (the valleys but also rovato!) and through note the ass. corbetta it has been the first incotri that are leading turned out to be. besides in the budget 2007 the municipality has allocated the number of 50.000 € for the activation of this service (installation access point in the fractions) therefore I must say, and must thank, that corbetta, so like the mayor, they have done their duty. I hope at citizen's lodettese put under stress 56k what works to 40k, which this service could be activated as soon as possible. questà will be one of my principal battles.
for whom did he want to contact me: louis braghini@gmail.com
March 27th, 2007 to 3:02 pm
really that of the digital divides in italia is a serious problem … even if perhaps we have some a little heavier problems
In any case the power of the net is own in the treatment equality … http://yro.slashdot.org / yro / 07/03/27/0142231.shtml
I suppose that whoever governs for next 5 years, will have to pay much attention to this family of things. finally!
March 27th, 2007 to 5:27 pm
If I must be sincere I was not knowing that anyone in the fractions had carried ahead the battle ADSL (and unfortunately, as I was saying, to telecom it it does not import him anything of the petitions) and I receive with pleasure this news. I have never done anything on the subject because in the fraction in whom I live I have few conososcenze (my social, working life is practically only to brescia) and I was believing that it was mattering nobody very much of having the wide side.
As far as the wi-fi regards I have only learnt in these last days of the adhesion of Rovato, up to a few months ago we were not part of the project of the region.
But is it known anything on the times? If something is moving really?
I have a Serle friend and he says what in his municipality, between the first ones in sticking the project, of the wi-fi if it it is lost it traces out for now.
We cross the fingers.
March 27th, 2007 to 9:03 pm
Do I give you Beef to the oil? it is fantastic
Good evening to all, good evening Lodetto and you go Braghini that you are the best.
Can you explain to me please who are the benefits that I have acquired loggandomi to rovato.org?
To soon.
francesco@corbetta.org
March 27th, 2007 to 9:31 pm
Hello,
you have "conquered" the nickname f.corbetta
Besides you are inscribed to the Rovato.org mailing list to receive the novelties of the site.
It would be other possibilities that we might decide to activate
March 28th, 2007 to 6:43 am
Diego, since you see some times also at the fractions is born something of coupon and me it wonders that a person of the fractions as you has not been made a mouthpiece of the interests of your community. does not he think your children? if only in a future the adsl might do to them comfort … as far as it regards the times sincerely I cannot give you information, but the fact that anyone has shown interest is already a good signal. let's hope as soon as possible!
March 28th, 2007 to 8:20 am
Hello to tutt*.
I wanted to inform to you on the event of the covering Adsl and similar of the communal territory, I have asked the Mayor Andrew Cottinelli for a meeting to be able to make the chronicle of the question as well as the point of the situation to the present state.
The Mayor has kindly agreed.
Then, account within the weekend (each so much I must study also, unfortunately) of managing to put on linen the article.
Good navigation
Daniele — rovato.org
March 28th, 2007 to 8:38 am
It likes, I must tell you that you are the best. with the Korio and Hoe it that you have done from this site the true voice of Rovato, the very!
March 28th, 2007 to 12:09 pm
INTERNET-ADSL ALSO IN THE FRACTIONS!!! THANKS TO WHOEVER SHOWS INTEREST OF CARRYING AHEAD THIS PROBLEM.
March 28th, 2007 to 1:04 pm
I advise you hotly this situated where you will be able to find many information about not covering ADSL in Italy, on the technical causes, on the solutions proposed in some zones …
In short http://www.antidigitaldivide.org /
March 28th, 2007 to 2:11 pm
eheh sexual excitement, unfortunately I know that site perfectly, have made myself a culture of wi-fi, frauds of telecom, miniDSLAM, MUX and so on who not even imagines
:D
in any case, if it serves with you one more voice for any battle regarded the wide side they are disponibilissimo, on the contrary more
to Luigi: for now I do not think of my children, feel myself still young for those (bhe, more or less young
) in any case, as say, my social life in fraction be almost null, go out and work only to brescia, me be difficult follow certain things.
To Daniele: the very, I wait with trepidation for the article.
I wanted to inform you among other things of the "fraud" that telecom has already done to me one pair from times, and also to my neighbour. Or they call you to tell you that finally the ADSL has arrived to your zone and propose the contract to you. I beg not acettate! it does not happen not at all in all that the activation order after any days is cancelled for “technical reasons” (thanks to the fife, we are not covered) and nn you pay no penalty, but at least you do not give the satisfaction to the type of the call centre of concluding a contract. I have also made him notice what we are not covered but the person was insisting. I have agreed and obviously after some days, call 187 to ask for the state d0attivazione and they tell me that the order has been cancelled because I am not covered. I ask for explanations and obviously no explanation …
vabbeh, IT MAKES AN ATTEMPT
March 29th, 2007 to 10:13 am
I see in the o.d.g. of the communal advice of this evening:
” ADOPTION PLANS SUPPLEMENTED OF INTERVENTION IN THE ROADS: PASUBIO, XXV APRIL (EX-ZOODULA), FALCON (EX-P.E.MOIE)”
It is it anyone who knows who they are the owners of these areas?
(It is a serious question that might make me understand because someone, pawned (and not) politically itself stà very much if what shook).
THANK YOU
March 29th, 2007 to 10:21 pm
Hello,
I believe that going to Municipality the acts are public, included the property of the areas.
Into the o.d.g. of the Municipality this datum is not inserted in systematic way, then it is not of easy finding for us.
Daniele
March 30th, 2007 to 7:59 am
I threw yesterday my personal blog. here you will be able to find my presentation and because I have decided to candidate.
luigibraghini.blogspot.com
I undertake to hold it updated each week with the hot themes of the electoral campaign.
March 30th, 2007 to 1:37 pm
if I can allow myself … www.wordpress.com