Five arrests to Rovato for the Sunday brawl in square Palestro
The final budget of the brawl is five arrested ones (a 19enne, one 23enne and one 25enne - all and three of Albanian national character - and two youth rovatesi in 22 and 24 years) worsened been needed on Sunday afternoon in square Palestro.
A little later the 17, the five have confronted each other to kicks and fists in the plant piazzetta of the capital of the Franciacorta.
Still to make clear the real dynamics of the brawl: according to the forces of the order (Local Police of Rovato and Carabineers of Rovato, Cleared up and Adro), it would be about not better specified “futile motives”.
Perhaps some not too friendly words, or a glass of too much from someone: a simple incomprehension, the event has taken quickly the slope of the physical confonto, happened under the eyes of residents and passers-by.
To have it worse, the biggest a youth rovatesi: riamsto to land after the fight, one is still raised a little later, helped at some passers'-by and at the ambulance arrived in the place in a few minutes.
Five protagonists of the brawl have been accompanied to the Ready Help of Clear ones: for them, excoriation and livid to the face, all wounds judged curable in one week about.
The bustle caused by the violent quarrel has recalled in road the customers of three public premises that appear in square Palestro, to whom there have been added little by little some passers-by and the families in transit towards the Holy oratorical neighbour Giovanni Bosco pawned in the traditional purpose holiday in January.
The tension - and the confusion - they have remained high for an hours pair, between patrols of the Cc (quite four the used motor-vehicles) and the persons' continuous coming and going, attracted in the place from the crowd and from be chasing of voices on what had really happened some first tens of minutes.
Between them - so many people - picked up voices, also that one of another tension episode, happened the first evening in the parking of the Cattle market, where in these days an autoencounters footprint is of room.
Two events would be whichever you are related, neither for the manners nor for the involved protagonists
Around 17:30 the return to the normality, happened when the Cc have managed to "convince" 24enne of Rovato to be got into the gazelle.
For him, compared to another 4 involved boys, there would be also an accusation of resistance and lesion to official public. A marshal of the carabineers would have brought back in fact some wounds during the fight with the young man, evidently still shaken by all that only happened.
January 29th, 2008 to 5:26 pm
I have attended personally the scene. I add only (for chronicle duty) what it has happened around the 17 and not to the 15. A not much edifying whichever scene.
January 29th, 2008 to 5:47 pm
I am a Rovato adolescent …
I wanted to say only that the brawl has not been caused by futile motives … I know and someone is my friends those that have been involved in the brawl … because it is not POSSIBLE TO BE AFRAID OF GOING AROUND FOR THE OWN COUNTRY!!!!!!! and %$£soprattutto "fear" imposed by foreigners sometimes not in rule, therefore he holds. The forces of the order cannot do anything and Cottinelli is to the window to look at the own country to be filled of M *** to more and more ….a I am point are FORCED to go down we with our hands TO DEFEND THE RIGHT of turning without fear for the roads of our dear country … unfortunately it is the single solution.
January 29th, 2008 to 5:55 pm
for anonymous
since you know the person in dance you will be able to understand everything, dom de brao
January 29th, 2008 to 6:16 pm
I would want to complete the picture of the most beautiful yesterday day.
Towards the hours 21:00 in Square Cavour, really in the beautiful means of the square, a new and nth brawl has been verified between two little groups of albanesi/kossovari.
After a short discussion a fight has followed to damage of one of these that if the data to raised legs.
The forces of the order arrived about 10 slower minutes when by now all the participants went away.
MAH.
January 29th, 2008 to 6:31 pm
There are always sad episodes, whoever is involved to you.
January 29th, 2008 to 7:01 pm
anonymous inca you have gone down with your hands and you have taken them. sonorously. perhaps it is better to let make to the forces of the order and to avoid undertaking the road of the private violence and of the revenge.
January 29th, 2008 to 7:46 pm
@ SEXUAL EXCITEMENT: correct schedule. there I was also in square palestro, I have made a mistake to key the hour but I confirm that there were the 17.
@indigeno: I was not knowing dell evening "event".
January 29th, 2008 to 8:51 pm
I confirm the perlia commentary: expensive anonymous, but som capicc. dom de brao. If then you are really an adolescent it is better than to go down in square with the hands (beautiful way!!!!) are the big ones.
January 29th, 2008 to 8:56 pm
naturally I was joking about the hands.
January 29th, 2008 to 9:03 pm
@Roby 80: you have saved yourself from the moderation of the commentary. in corner.
January 29th, 2008 to 9:17 pm
It is that I am not good to write. I have noticed after oh written document that it could seem another thing. When I wrote BEAUTIFUL WAY with the exclamatory points it was going to laugh. I know that the hands never owe to themselves to use, especially for futile reasons as it is written. I ask apology for the one whom it has not understood.
January 30th, 2008 to 9:22 am
What is entrusted to do to the forces of the order if they reach half an hour after the call … if 2 Albanians have already been seen around to rovato and if at the end that they take eche they must undergo these things they are the boys rovatesi that cannot girara etranquillamente in their country?????? The solution of risondere of the same way dom is normal …. de brai!!! since you do the wonderful ones … turn more often to to rovato because someone says still ….AFFIDIAMOCI TO the FORCES OF the ORDER … it means what it it has not still enough … but we boys are that you warm!!!!!!!!
January 30th, 2008 to 9:33 am
Evidently you have not understood …
with our hands. in the sense that here arrengeremo we … in the opportune way … does not mean for strength the violence … on Sunday I was not participating … but evidently they have made her turn … if you are uninterested of not being able to live your country quietly … oh done yours … us we do not want to be afraid of turning with the fear for the Rovato roads … above all when it is our country …
I do not tell the violence to be beautiful but to scrape bitter extreme extremes together (sometimes) …
January 30th, 2008 to 9:49 am
Apart from the fact that two stopped Italians are not of the holy ones, on the contrary it would be curious to see the criminal criminal record it.
And then I would like to know who there was as the facts have gone really.
Is it verdo or it is not truth what feels itself around that the two italianissimi rovatesi have allowed themselves to insult and to push foreign and this boy, making a mistake has returned with two strengthening?
No because, if it has gone really so, half of the persons that sbauscia on this blog should starsene silent.
January 30th, 2008 to 10:11 am
sincerely I turn in ste country and also in others, to feet, and nobody has ever broken the bales to me, also pasando closely to group of foreigner, who to all that looks for the illuminated youth rovatesi are alien to be afraid and to fight, that beautiful if the future of the society they are these obtuse.
before saying something of the brawl it would be necessary to be seen how the facts have gone and which the real motives were. then it is not said that the foreigners imported also the brawls, because already when I was more giovan there they were riss much greater between boys of different countries. then we do not start with the usual scale.
Is it always said of ste rovato cabbage as if it should not be possible to circulate without being attacked, he seems the bronx, I do not know it to me ste great loo does not look, certainly with the increase of the population stupid a few can esseci, but the stupid ones are of all the national characters, we want to do to competition to the one who it has more?
To all that one results to me two rovatesi, indicated anonymous as innocently that reacts to the provocations of the untrustworthy foreigners, it is also investigated for resistance to official public, having reacted to the intervention of the forces of the order (saran been disguised Albanians).
January 30th, 2008 to 10:15 am
I have not said that ke it is never innocent.
January 30th, 2008 to 10:28 am
truth: the one who remembers some tens of years ago, a mega brawls in course bonomelli zone bar milano between boys of rovato and roe. scenes to be done west: clubs, sticks and bottles. nevertheless there was it going well?
January 30th, 2008 to 10:33 am
@ anonymous
He looks I there was, the local police has arrived in less than five minutes. five, not half an hour.
the caribinieri here put han of the majority this is truth.
that then the event has lasted an hour (and I have not understood because, I endorse hce it was enough to load all into car and to bring to them in barracks instead of what to put in feet that toy theatre with the people who was going out of the oratory and of the bars), it is another speech on who can give you reason.
the problem immigration, which for me exists as I believe also for you, it is not possible to confuse with what has happened on Sunday, brao.
four fists and it kicks, as far as got wrong, they do not make us certain becoming as bagdad.
@ abc: also I have felt in country this "voice" on the double quarrel, but I do not know if it is truth.
hello gnari I return to the work.
January 30th, 2008 to 10:35 am
ah, I was forgetting: I believe that the true problem of Rovato today is the DIRT what there is more or less everywhere.
waste papers for road, to the rubbish skips, dirty roads. domsà na regulada tocc, because so it looks napoli …
January 30th, 2008 to 10:48 am
against the wearing out of the modern life with country … ”mythical anomino scrapes bitter extreme extremes together” … …
January 30th, 2008 to 11:00 am
But which hypocrisy! Let's know all personally or for fame that most honest two and educatissimi boys Rovatesi!! I do not deny that the presence of many foreigners for the roads creates any uneasinesses, particularly for us girls, but sincerely I am more intimorita of people as those two our fellow citizens!
We try not to hide behind the stupidest racial questions; this two would have quarrelled with whoever would have looked at them, and xè not aproffittare of the hate for the Albanians to try to legitimise such overbearing and violent behaviours!! be ashamed
January 30th, 2008 to 11:04 am
I confess the difficulty in moderating a discussion like this one, technically corrected but that evidently regards the persons' life / reputation that cannot be defended and that, up to contrary proof, they remain innocent (I speak about all and five the involved ones).
I invite you therefore, before inserting your reflexions, to hold on mind all that I have only written.
Thanks to all and all.
Good navigation
Daniele
January 30th, 2008 to 11:07 am
You are right I apologise for the tone of my message, but certain things make me become affected with rabies really. it is too comfortable to unload the guilt always and only on the foreigners
January 30th, 2008 to 5:38 pm
http://www.forzaitaliarovato.o.....; Itemid=40
January 31st, 2008 to 7:23 am
Expensive Franc, of … … that writes Conter about them. site we do not know that to do it to us. About the brawl for example it has written:
“Last Monday in square Palestro Albanian young three have been faced after a series of insults and two Rovato boys.”
Conter does not know a cabbage: the event has happened in Sunday to begin much.
These things come to tell her in communal advice instead of doing the furbetto. Criticism Scalvi because it fires sentences and he who has the possibility of doing it in official road that it does? If it it is to house!
But it is stuff of madmen. He begins to explain us how he justifies the presence in his list of a personage like Manenti. We are explained by him that thin have made the coalition between centre and right-wing parties to Rovato after 10 years of domination Conter-Tomasoni.
But give us the pleasure itself raise the balls!
January 31st, 2008 to 5:13 pm
Qll ke more frightens me, after the situations verified in our country, it is the fact ke many young boys iniziarenno crusades (anke singolarmatne) against extracommunity anyone … it is necessary to dissolve a little the climate ke, continuing of qst I pass, it will become intolerable … it has been a horrible episode … but of brawls between young boys here they have always been and here they will always be … not alone between Italians vs rest of the world … but anke between Italians themselves … I believe ke if each one of us must think a little perhaps many things they would be arranged ankora before be verifying …
February 1st, 2008 to 1:52 pm
I agree completely with “JaCoPo“ on the fact who if each one of us was thinking a little more certain facts, perhaps, they would be less frequent.
Nevertheless shores, brawls, encounters between boys have always existed, like someone he has already maintained in this blog.
I would prefer, therefore, that as success on Sunday, was seen only ("only" without diminishing the gravity it at the level of civic education) like a hormonal problem.
February 2nd, 2008 to 6:25 pm
Safe to all
I have never written beforehand I am a lady rovatese.
I have found in last days a leaflet of new strength in my box of the post.
I have never had particular political passion, then I have read with free spirit the text.
I feel myself an offence with the things written in the text, with the arrogance and with the spoken violence of that text where things call themselves how “not here vergognamo in putting aside that grudge that does not intend to accept, of course, and to maintain too much a long time the calm”.
boys, but do you realise what do you write? do you get ready for the war by chance? do you want 1947, or the 70s?
I believe what if these boys have gone out of our schools, our oratories, our municipalities we should make a washing of conscience on as we have brought them up.
To put aside violence and grudge????
I am the most grieved and I use this space like vent, it seems completely so absurd to me.
possible that quste things could be spread and written, do you deliver house for house to the rovatesi?
I nno know what our society to think about this one in hand about the one who believes that hate and grudge are political weapons.
expensive boys, with phrases since you return those impossibiel to the people also only to listen to you, each your idea loses value.
safe
February 8th, 2008 to 1:51 pm
[…] to the theme they have multiplied, it derived principally from two new arguments: some chronicle facts (the Sunday brawl on January 27 in square Palestro up to the opening of the service of photosignalling) and the beginning of the country […]
March 16th, 2008 to 5:07 pm
Today on March 16 2008 to the hours 13 about, to the entry Coccaglio difronte to the distributor Agip I have seen a car of the carabineers that has stopped a BMW old model and laid down by land with the face on the asphalt and handles to the wrists a VERY PROBABLY ALBANIAN boy, them ahead about 2 km. before the new distributor Agip di Rovato (undergone after the rotunda that carries in station) two ambulances and several machines of the carabineers who were giving help to a person to land very probably attacked by the young man arrested to Coccaglio,
I have been amazed at the intervention of the carabineers' who FINALLY ARREST AN ALBANIAN they always usually arrive after much time, it is now that ITALIAN we wake up our lethargy because if you have not noticed these persons have invaded us and think to be their masters of our roads and our countries, it is a shame!!!! ITALIAN we to be afraid of these persons, to be afraid of finding them again at home to steal our properties and to worry about our relatives, 20 years fà were existing other problems but it was lived more serene the moment has arrived of saying STOP! IT IS NECESSARY TO CREATE IN EACH COUNTRY OF The COMMITTEES COMPOSED BY HONEST CITIZENS WHO WATCH IN NIGHT AND HELP TO ELIMINATE THE EVIL WHICH THESE PERSONS BRING US IS NECESSARY TO REPLY TO the VIOLENCE WITH EVEN MORE VIOLENCE REMIND OF YOU WHEN THE CLOTHS ARE WASHED THAT THEY ARE CLEAN. REFLECT ITALIANS!!!!!!!!!!
March 16th, 2008 to 5:59 pm
That what is David?, a spot for laundries?
It jokes apart, I think what the forces of the order make their duty in more than eminent way.
If anything it is the too protecting civil liberties laws that are questionable, since they replace in freedom it individualises almost suddenly after their arrest.
In any case, I am an Italian and I am considered an honest citizen, but I feel myself very far from your way of thinking and of wanting to face the problems tied to the certainty.
Certainly I do not find the argument sensible therefore Italian we are good "others", the "foreigners" are necessary to submit to harder laws.
Among other things today it is a March 16. Does not he tell you this at all date?
Trentanni does there they were not still great extracommunity, nevertheless the sense of the lack of certainty was pittosto strongly also then.
Certainly the causes and the motivations were deeply different,
but the result the same thing: fear and sense of impotence.
March 18th, 2008 to 9:50 am
http://rovato.org / 2008/03/18/d.....-ospedale /