Riceviamo e pubblichiamo una risentita lettera di un nostro lettore che lunedì 24 marzo si è recato sul Monte Orfano di Rovato. We get resentful and we publish a letter from a reader that our Monday March 24 went on Mount Orphan of Rovato.
Se arriveranno risposte dalle autorità, o altre considerazioni, le pubblicheremo: If you get answers from the authorities, or other considerations, the post:
“Grazie alle puntuali previsioni del tempo da voi pubblicate dopo le 10.00, al comparire del primo timido sole, mi sono dedicato alla classica gita fuori porta di Pasquetta (nel mio caso in senso stretto e non già metaforico). "Thanks to timely weather forecasts that you published after 10:00 of the first to appear timid sun, I am dedicated to the classic trip out of town for Easter (in my case in the strict sense and not metaphorically). Punto dritto sul Monte Orfano e dopo circa 5 ore sono di ritorno avendolo camminato tutto, dapprima in cresta quindi ai piedi del versante sud, Cologne - Coccaglio per intenderci). Straight point on Mount Orphan and after about 5 hours are Returning having walked all over, first crest and then the foot of the south, Cologne - Coccaglio for instance).
Segnalo quanto segue: I report the following:
- alla partenza dal piazzaletto di S. - The departure from St. piazzaletto Stefano da notare che la chiesetta presenta a quasi un anno di distanza (!) ancora il muretto di sostegno del terrazzamento franato; Stefano be noted that the church presents to almost a year away (!) Still support the wall of earth moving landslide;
- da notare il parcheggio interno al nuovo parco preso d’assalto dalle auto, con le stesse che risalgono parte del sentiero che porta alle panchine e all’area gioco (possibile che si debba arrivare con l’auto sempre e comunque ad non meno di un metro dalla meta?); - Notable parking inside the new park assault taken by car, with the same dating part of the path leading to the benches and to play (may need to arrive by car and always at least one meter from the goal?);
- ingresso del percorso vita come sempre in stato di abbandono, sporco; - Entrance of the path as life always in a state of neglect, dirt;
- percorso vita come sempre “allo stato brado” in un bosco sempre più cedente (nel senso che i tronchi schiantati al suolo si contano a decine) piuttosto che ceduo; - Path as life always "in the wild in a forest increasingly seller (in the sense that the logs crashed to the ground there are dozens) rather than coppice;
- in cresta sequela di capanni da caccia, che non metto in dubbio siano tutti autorizzati e per di più costituiscano aree pulite e ben tenute, ma monopolizzano il luogo e marcano l’assoluta mancanza di punti attrezzati con tavoli, panche e altro per chi volesse semplicemente sostare a godersi il panorama senza sparare ad alcunché; - Crest in the following of huts shot, which I do not doubt they are all approved and more areas are clean and well kept, but a monopoly over mark the place and the absolute lack of points equipped with tables, benches and more for those who want simply pause to enjoy the scene without shooting at anything;
- all’altezza del ripetitore di Cologne, scendendo verso il capanno della locale sezione alpini, rodeo a base di scooter con a bordo spesso anche due “cavalieri”, ovviamente rigorosamente senza casco, consistente in sperimentare qualunque sentiero e passaggio praticabile sia in salita che discesa; - At the repeater in Cologne, down to the hut of local alpine section, rodeo-based scooter with a board often two "knights" of course strictly without helmet, consisting of experience and whatever path is feasible step in that climb descent;
- a Coccaglio, costeggiando la Fusia tra vigneti vocati al pregiato Franciacorta, ecatombe di lepri, con carcasse abbandonate sul fondo della roggia vuota e ancor peggio al bordo dei vigneti , probabilmente uccise a fucilate, lasciate sul terreno e quindi schiacciate successivamente dalle ruote di mezzi agricoli. - A Coccaglio, along the Fusia among the finest vineyards suitable Franciacorta, hares carnage, with carcasses abandoned on the bottom of the Roggia empty and even worse on the verge of vineyards, probably killed a shot, left on the ground and then subsequently crushed by the wheels of media agricultural.
Tralascio di segnalare le bande di giovinotti e giovinotte intenti a scolarsi superalcolici, molto gettonata la vodka, e soprattutto a fumare “porro” (!?) … Skipping to report bands of youth and youth intent to drain spirits, very popular vodka, and especially to smoke "leek" (?) ...
La rabbia non può che salirti dentro nel costatare l’assoluta mancanza di un benché minimo controllo (vigili urbani, carabinieri, …); per lo spettacolo disgustoso delle carcasse di lepri, abbandonate a decine a bordo vigna ad offrire una immagine di assoluta inciviltà laddove invece si predica la qualità e la bellezza ; per antenne e tralicci che impreziosiscono il panorama. The anger can only salirti inside the establishment in the absence of a slightest control (urban vigilant, carabinieri, ...) to the disgusting spectacle of carcasses of hares, a dozen abandoned vineyard on board to provide a complete picture of where incivility Instead it preaches the quality and beauty; masts and towers that embellish the view. E poi vai con la mente a tutte le volte che hai letto sui quotidiani di progetti di valorizzazione del nostro monte: Agenda 21; una pista ciclopedonale a cingere tutto il monte che oramai o perso il conto di quante volte negli ultimi anni è stata annunciata… And then go with the mind all the times you've read in the newspapers of projects to develop our upstream: Agenda 21; a runway surrounded ciclopedonale a whole mountain that now or lost count of how many times in recent years has been announced ...
Davvero Buona Pasquetta! “ Really Good Easter! "
March 25th, 2008 at 11:39 a.m. am
This year I have fortunately avoided the experience but I fully agree on everything.
March 25th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
Lacked only the processionary to complete the work .... I also agree on everything.
March 25th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
Cotti you do something meaningful x enhance MONTE!
March 25th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
I attend weekly Mount Orphan and the letter is correct. I have also seen hares death in front of St. Stephen. I saw still young "centaurs" in rodeo among the vineyards that come from the new park. Last year Erbusco side, I have "flown" the pallettoni fighter on the head. I'm not an "environmentalist" hard and pure but go on Mount during the hunting incute I always fear. If I have to choose between hunting for the use of a few and enjoy nature at using many choose the latter. Yesterday, some (but not all because there was too much "healthy" youth) "our" young Brescia actually gave a show indecent based alcohol which diamogli act and honor, not more young volunteers of Civil Defense (I saw those Coccaglio and Middlebury not know if there were others). gathered one by one glass bottles and filth left to place. Then there are the positive notes of every day: pensioners, sporting a foot and by bicycle, husbands and wives, families, tourists simply equipped with point of the whole mountain backpacks, shoes and walking sticks from attending a "positive "Mount Orphan. Mount Orphan certainly deserves greater attention from the 4 municipalities that surround its borders with al'istituzione Province of Brescia in what is the real green lung of the city. Rovato, Maryport, Erbusco Cologne and not the countries themselves without the Monte Orphan. Some speeches were made and the fruits of greater presence of people you notice. I think (for Rovato) initiatives Avis to St. Michael, I think the Alpini, I think the association "the finger and the moon," to think of "Servants of Mary," I think the new park in St. Stephen, I think the new look of the square of the convent, I think the restaurant for private Genuisì, I think the partial accommodation of the street Piè Rovato to Monte and so Montorfano to Maryport, I think in the parish at St. Stephen, I think the bike path between Cologne and Maryport, I think the future (so I heard) restructuring announced Cantu home for 30 years by all administrations rovatesi and never realized. Something has been done (unfortunately missed leaving the new tower at Rovato) hopefully result in the creation of at least ciclopedonale track that surrounds the entire Monte.
March 25th, 2008 at 7:28 pm
I heard that our beloved Monte is untouchable under certain points of view (see bush that grows here and there out of) the fault of the Greens. I have heard that freed the vipers ... .. but it is true?
Someone knows what I focus and what did the Greens with the Monte Orphan?
March 25th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
In power affect only local areas be made, that he fucks the green of Montorfano? Up to the plant over a Torrazzo if there is a dramatic intervention on Montorfano to do is close the street to a traffic became truly irrepressible, who wants to go to pray to the convent that there Vadi walk!, and those who have the streets under the foot that will remain a hut! Only this kind of administration c'ha attributes for certain things.
March 25th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
eh already, who will fucks green public. parra coincidence but this administration has done or redone 7 new parks, 7! not one, but 2 or 7 and spread over the entire territory. the mountain is part, is run by a cooperative which has also undertaken to restructure the house Cantu, unlike many people who blaterano incorrect things. reports of the kind you do treasure it and try to do everything possible. with regard to cleanliness, I think there is little to say, we should make some sound civic education to all citizens, because of people who throw dirt you find everywhere, but especially foreign Italians. true that we want to get anywhere by car but I think it is also inpensabile put a policeman or a camera to contrallo anything.
regarding alcohol or smoke as well as superalcoolici etc ... has almost always been a "ritual" to spend the Easter Monday on the mountain ... it is certainly a bit sad ...
March 25th, 2008 at 10:03 a.m. pm
In my reporting that takes its cue from my trip to Easter, I repeat, nothing provocative. Only a finding of critical situations and unspeakable behavior.
I thank Massimo, Stefania and Francis have acknowledged the correctness.
A Pignatta how provocative your post can stay there, but access by car in this case is irrepressible. Perhaps even here in critical moments we could at least see how we can manage things better. Type establishing a one-way ride temporary? (There are no practical about these things, maybe I fired big ... pardon!)
But read the thoughts of Mr. Braghina makes me somewhat puzzled. I speak of Monte Orphan and oppose the 7 "Giardinetti public events or remade by the Executive (the remake is like doing for the first time?). I would like to see well with the building boom under way in our country: a bit of green areas to make at least partly because the mass introitato with the burden of urbanization. Let me mention one of seven park of Mount Orphan given in the management coopertiva. Well, there is still accommodation (not necessarily the best, allow me, not all have to be aligned to the choices of the Board) to an area that has long had no accommodation. But it's still an area of Monte, not the Monte. On cleaning then the usual rhetoric: the administrator is not guilty, but of citizens. Imagine if applied his logic to respond to the Neapolitan! Let me count the baskets located in the area? Let's see who is responsible for cleaning and how often? Just to check, considering that taxpayer perhaps some of my "euros" are spent for that too. Seeing a vigilant not to direct traffic entrance to the road salt from Viale Martinengo Cesaresco, but in the park, along the path to life on several yards of S. Stephen, of the Convent of the Alpini the day of Easter, known day of maximum turnout on our Monte, except spite of Jupiter pluvio, seem so unthinkable? So unthinkable was also thinking of putting a camera that controls the entrance to the park of Mount Orphan? The secluded place, I think, maybe could affect harmless girlfriend to have an eye for perhaps effusions characters in a vein on the other. Maybe if the camera were those of 360 degrees, with a single installation could impensabilmente control the yard-parking of the church of S. Stephen, often crossed out after closing time allotted to 20.30 and perhaps dissuade so loud and nasty to pause and more out of place for their comfort. And maybe we have already monitored motivated around the church before, that this svaligino well.
Finally his "ritual" in quotes is that they are no longer willing to go quietly. Even if it "corrects" adding that "it is a bit sad ...." Sad? No, it's much worse, gives a sense of yield to everything and everyone.
However I believe that the current Government does not need to Praetorian ready to shoot at each post ...
Prosit!
March 26th, 2008 at 8:13 am
How well does not need people to every problem Scattina to breaking balls. And I'm not necessarily talking about her.
March 26th, 2008 at 8:14 am
Last year, is not native place and therefore unaware of the rite of the Easter Monday rovatesi, I imprudently ventured on the mountain with the follow-wife and two children. We have seen the dismay rite of alcohol, smoking, turpiloquio and rudeness in general. Now I'm finally aware of this tradition obviously welcome and perhaps even protect my watch well in the future from repeating the experience.
thanks
March 26th, 2008 at 8:27 am
Mount is not bad in itself but must be protected
ps: xyz trying not to ruin this disc and 'what you think on the mountain, beyond right and left ..
March 26th, 2008 at 9:08 am
I think it is difficult, not impossible, but at least difficult, forcing people to behave in an educated, civilized, respecting the environment in which they live.
I mean that you can not create a police state, but it should and could hope to have been a better civic education.
I agree that some control over not amiss.
I fully agree with those who say you should ban the use of motorized transport on the trails.
Why not turn around the Monte Orphan in a protected area?
Certainly this is a mountain richness for the four municipalities that share. Maintain it, even back in a good state of health could be a good investment.
March 26th, 2008 at 9:58 am
by xyz: How well does not need people to every problem Scattina to breaking balls. And I'm not necessarily talking about her.
IN FACT, YOU are you talking about?
March 26th, 2008 at 10:30 am
ah ah ah this beautiful.
However, yet again, remember that the revaluation of the projects I know are in place as linked to the field of Legambiente already active this summer and involving the 4 common border with Montorfano. Already this is convenient but not see it.
Greetings.
March 26th, 2008 at 10:41 am
Hello everyone,
I sincerely believe that the "rite of the Easter Monday some of which we speak is transformed over time into a storage informe mixture of rudeness to rest, in the final analysis, those who never drank two small glasses in over the mountain on the day of Easter Monday?
This is what's always been: a picnic with friends who, bread, sausage and red wine.
Now the time is probably somewhat 'changed, then young people have replaced the red with vodka and cigarettes with maybe something else, but I do not think a procession of doped on the mountain for Easter Monday, I think instead of a procession of bad people ! however, that "lowered the ridge" if properly accused.
Special measures for the day of Easter Monday on the mountain should be a must for all governments involved, but also in areas outside of Mount rovatesi I do not think I have seen much that, while the rest is just a matter of lack of maintenance, and maintenance is not a political speech!
March 26th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Substitute cigarettes with something else you let go? is drugs! A provocation ... why not put two vigilant that the Zani searched before opening the mountain to the next Easter Monday? You will see that there was no thirty people.
March 26th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
A provocation: why not put the alert to advise the hall Thursday night and then the test balloon to someone of Forza Italia who is the council? What are perhaps in a fire on board the terms for reopening the barracks of the guard of finance and then we do not want to explain why there is between manufacturers Emanuele Rossi.
March 26th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Who should explain this choice is Rovato civic, not the opposition.
March 26th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
And I believe that someone is able to defend it.
E 'someone must explain why the attacks and then pretend not to see the point that I said. Aldo Rossi view improponibile on his blog.
March 26th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Do not repeat often enough: MARTINELLI HAD REASON
March 26th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
What is the address of the blog Rossi, please?
March 26th, 2008 at 4:59 pm
aldomassimorossi.blogspot.com
March 28th, 2008 at 7:26 pm
but aldo maximum red is not what the Congress after the elections FI shooting at will? is not that fired up permanent? is not firing maggiorazna on the FI, old etc? is not that he is ...
I remember when speaking of Foscolo Monti wrote
"These are the Mountains, poet and knight,
great translator of translators of Homer "
or that song De Andrè who spoke of those who say you want to die for ideas, because those who had said they were one hundred spans
March 29th, 2008 at 12:58 PM
Perhaps the problem Rovato is clearly reflected in the pattern of post in the appendix to this: we start by findings about the deterioration of Mount Orphan it comes to talking about Aldo Rossi Massimo someone say ... "and that gets us?! ?. "
Meanwhile degradation and problems remain ... Prosit!
March 29th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
Indeed it is quite distressing to note that when you put on the table practical problems that need specific answers the authoritative representatives of the majority and the minority often solerti to speak on other issues at large.
Yet have been invited to speak by the operators of the site back in the commentary published letter.
Not that they were obliged theme ... maybe not worthy of their attention.
March 30th, 2008 at 8:45 am
Yes. Unfortunately, it is a political error to deal with a problem, even obvious, so policy forum.
According good careful to criticize what is being said and / or raised on the side opposite policy. Whatever.
In this way the problem is not resolved, because the energy, thoughts, you spend more in contrast to the opinion of others and to highlight their way of doing.
Leaving the problem as it is.
I think this is one of the major flaws of politics at all levels.
Rarely read or hear criticism, even constructive, covering his own or the work of his party, but that could help solve the problem.
March 30th, 2008 at 9:09 pm
for those interested in the situation of pasta pagans tomorrow Monday 31marzo
the critical situation back about 30 people from all departments are layoffs
March 31st, 2008 at 8:11 pm
It seems to me that reporting ax, maybe over here by mistake, deserves to be noticed. Another company rovatese in crisis? But yes, we open another bank ...