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Qualche tempo fa Rovato.org fu uno dei primi mezzi d’informazione a svelare l’intenzione di Cogeme di estendere anche a Rovato una raccolta differenziata “porta a porta” esattamente come quella che oggi viene fatta a Paderno Franciacorta. Some time ago Rovato.org was one of the first media to reveal their intention to Cogeme to extend also to Rovato a collection door-just like what is done today in Paderno editor. La notizia raccolse l’attenzione di molti cittadini, alcuni dei quali evidenziarono anche alcune possibili criticità di quel nuovo sistema. The news gathered the attention of many citizens, some of which evidenziarono also some possible critical that the new system.
Rovato.org ha deciso di muoversi nel tentativo di analizzare meglio propri questi ultimi aspetti (senza però dare risposte definitive di alcun tipo, non è il nostro ruolo quello), e per fare ciò ha deciso di prendere in considerazione un’azienda franciacortina “rivale” di Cogeme. Rovato.org decided to move in an attempt to better analyze its recent issues (but give definitive answers of any kind, is not our role that), and to do so has decided to consider a franciacortina "rival "Cogeme.
Si tratta di Ags, una Spa interamente detenuta dal Comune di Provaglio , che prima di costituirla usufruiva dei servizi della stessa Cogeme per la raccolta e lo smaltimento dei rifiuti. This is Ags, a Spa wholly owned by the Municipality of Provaglio, that before costituirla usufruiva departments Cogeme same for the collection and disposal of waste. Abbiamo quindi cercato di ricostruire la situazione attuale di Provaglio seguendo da una parte i comunicati ufficiali di AGS ed incontrando anche alcuni residenti per interrogarli sul funzionamento del servizio. We have therefore tried to reconstruct the current situation of Provaglio following a party press releases and official AGS also experiencing some residents for interrogarli on the operation of the service.
Iniziamo con le similitudini tra le due aziende . We start with the similarities between the two companies. Per entrambe la raccolta avviene casa per casa; ciascun nucleo abitativo dispone infatti di piccoli bidoni per la propria differenziata che poi deve portare in strada, sembra che il modello abbia dato buoni risultati dato che in alcune dichiarazioni di AGS rilasciate a fine 2007 (dopo un anno di funzionamento della raccolta) la differenziata provagliese è passata dal 32% al 70%. For both the harvesting takes place home for home and each household has in fact small bins for their diversification which then must lead in the street, it seems that the model has yielded good results since in some declarations of AGS issued at the end of 2007 (after a years of operation of the collection) differentiated provagliese rose from 32% to 70%.
Detto questo però le due soluzioni al “problema rifiuti” non sono identiche. Le differenze sono poche ma piuttosto rilevanti: That said, however, the two solutions to this problem and waste "are not identical. The differences are few but important:
- Mentre Cogeme ha ipotizzato tariffe per l’utenza che derivano direttamente dal volume dell’indifferenziato di ogni singola abitazione, incentivando così una raccolta il più mirata possibile, Ags ha optato per una soluzione più “conservativa”. I provagliesi infatti continuano a proseguire una tassa rifiuti in base ai classici paramentri (ampiezza dell’abitazione, ecc.) ; tradotto in soldoni non si è notata alcuna differenza di costo tra i due servizi, né in positivo né in negativo per il momento è però difficile capire quanto si potrà risparmiare essendo attenti alla differenziazione nei territori di Cogeme. While Cogeme has assumed rates for users resulting directly from dell'indifferenziato volume of each dwelling, thus encouraging a collection as targeted as possible, Ags has opted for a more "conservative". Provagliesi continue to pursue a tax waste into the classic parameters (amplitude for housing, etc.). translated into soldoni has not noticed any difference in cost between the two services, neither positive nor negative for the time being, however, is difficult to understand how you can save it attentive to differentiation in the territories of Cogeme.
- La raccolta dei rifiuti AGS dei rifuti RSU e FURSU (rifiuti non recuperabili ed organico) avviene tre volte a settimana : LUNEDÌ, MERCOLEDÌ E SABATO mentre plastica ed altri rifiuti vengono normalmente raccolti una volta la settimana, per COGEME pare che ci sarà una sola raccolta settimanale The waste collection AGS rifuti of MSW and FURSU (non-recoverable waste and organic) occurs three times per week: MONDAY, WEDNESDAY AND SATURDAY while plastic and other waste are normally collected once a week for COGEME seems that there is only one collection weekly
- Un’altra differenza che ci è stata fatta notare è quella della dimensione inferiore e conseguente maggiore maneggevolezza dei bidoni AGS, probabilmente indotta dalla maggiore frequenza della raccolta Another difference that we have been noted is that of smaller size and consequent increased handling of bins AGS, probably caused by the increased frequency of collection
I provagliesi hanno comunque lamentato alcune perplessità . The provagliesi have complained some doubts. Innanzitutto il controllo sul reale contenuto dei diversi bidoni sembra essere un po’ scarso, e poco incisivo contro i trasgressori. First, the real control over the content of the various bins seems to be a little 'low, and not very effective against offenders. In secondo luogo poi, nonostante nel comune sebino i cittadini non paghino in base al peso realmente prodotto di rifiuti indifferenziati, qualcuno si diverte ad utilizzare i contenitori dei propri vicini, a volte perché più comodi, a volte perché già in strada mentre i propri sono ancora in casa, altre volte per motivi apparentemente ignoti. Secondly then, despite the common sebino citizens do not pay under the weight of waste actually produced undifferentiated, someone fun to use containers of its neighbours, sometimes because more comfortable, sometimes because already in the street while their are still at home, sometimes apparently for reasons unknown. Un’altra “moda” che qualche abitante segnala è “la passeggiata dei rifiuti” effettuata da alcuni abitanti per scaricare nei comuni vicini. Another "fashion" indicates that some inhabitant is "the walk of waste made by some people to download in the municipalities neighbours. Il sistema di Cogeme saprà risolvere tutto questo? The system of Cogeme will solve all this? Forse l’esperienza di Passirano potrà essere decisiva. Perhaps the experience of Passirano will be decisive.
July 3rd, 2008 at 4:36 pm
By collecting door to door have seen a reduction in costs. In fact the first disposal was covered by the payment of tax on waste sommanti citizens to a share paid by the municipality.
With the differentiated portion of the town was eliminated and probably next year there will be a decrease in funding for both paid by the citizens.
Remember that the fee has remained the same but has not increased, contrary to what has happened in the municipalities that have not adopted the differentiated.
July 3rd, 2008 at 5:57 pm
Cogeme collect the wet once every two weeks? was written in the newspaper of the municipality of coccaglio if I have not read evil
July 4th, 2008 at 8:13 am
povco povco 2 weeks safe? I began to Smell… of wet and not just
July 4th, 2008 at 10:26 am
Good work, if those signatures expect us autoconcimiamo houses
July 4th, 2008 at 7:43 pm
I'm looking for a partner to sell at all rovatesi masks last generation; canvassing; low prices, a model for the interior of the house tube and a short tube long when you exit, interchangeable, the model long pipe can also talk to the dirimpettaio with a slight amplification; single filter, even here at low prices; who was interested in the company, write to ZAGOR.
July 6th, 2008 at 8:51 am
but as Zagor: you want the quarries and sorrow you waste?
then one carrying the mask because it's afraid to be seen as a defender of law, (or will be for other reasons?, so that aspiration to charm dell'ignoto) wants to sell masks with pipes, it will be because they are the currency with you on pososno pay your reasoning? you must averene had many, tubes, that is wrapped hole because you do not see that sbolognarli offer them on sale
good sale: forced to sell pipes will luck
July 14th, 2008 at 7:44 am
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July 30th, 2008 at 12:20 p.m. pm
We had collected with interest the idea of separate collection organized by cogeme on our territory, but today we have some doubts.
In the coming days we will make a report on the independent collection.
August 9th, 2008 at 7:29 pm
I wonder hygiene but that has happened?
The absorbent igenici for example end up in dell'indifferenziato you must take home a month or two depending on the provisions but you realize? There seems possible? and, of course, the litter of cat and holds scrementi the dog.
This generates garbage smells disgustosi and attracts insects as well as produce germs and bacteria and carry diseases.
This is the second evolution you?
The only possible alternative? pay withdrawals additional to those provided there seems a blasphemy?
and we head bowed and obey…. really that touches us burn waste naples where nothing is divided… that we are the buffoons of situations? As always the rest!
and the results obtained about the indivisible in other countries makes me smile just seconds you are reliable? we believe? use your head… .!!!! I explain why I have declined because people do not have any intention to hear puzze hygiene at home and keeps us so simply throws these types of garbage bins in other countries where in fact there is a strong increase in garbage…. . that case?
Hygiene is a right and can not levarcela to make their absurd experiments.
It can not make us pay more 'to have a house that simply want to be clean.
Rivoltiamoci en masse this is the only sensible thing to do otherwise once removed boxes of neighbouring countries simply butteremo the dirt on the street as naples good result.
The collection is another thing I have ever made… .. what is being proposed now is to keep a landfill in the house! E 'madness !!!!!
Possible that there realise that this disease can 'lead? absurd pay to keep a landfill at home and this would be a service?