VITTORE MARTINELLI (FI) BECOMES UNTHREADED CONTER AND MANENTI: ON THE HORIZON A THIRD LIST?
What the choice of there was recovering the ex-mayor member of a workers' association Roberto Manenti in the coalition of Alexander Conter (CdL and Social Rebirth) was generating more than one badly of stomach in some sectors of the coalition between centre and right-wing parties, was widely foreseeable. The will of putting Manenti in first row in the electoral competition, announcing the assessor's list it to the public certainty, has certainly fed the fire that it was brooding under the embers.
But the decision, communicated few ones it prays ago at the present council Strength leader's Italy, Vittore Martinelli, one is something that will mark deeply the result of the near administrative elections. The Strength exponent Italy, in 1997 and in 2002 the man with more preferences in the whole field of the CdL (to the last one proved to be electoral almost 200 were his personal vows), it has announced in fact officially that will not support the list of Conter and Manenti.
In the centre of the choice, own the operation of rejoining completed by the vertices CdL (Gianluigi Raineri and Emanuele Rossi in head) towards Manenti: "For years - confirmation Martinelli - the CdL work to a concrete political project what itself propose like credible alternative to Cottinelli. We were thinking that there should finish the time of the carnevalate of Manenti, a night communal advice, regulating plans approved on meetings prolonged by the morning up to evening, orders at least odd. We were thinking of a sober and intelligent idea, in line with our electorate. Suddenly, it is discovered that our electors will find themselves instead in list with the one who, in ’97 and in 2002, made them lose objectively”.
To divide Martinelli and the rest of the CdL is also the judgement about the addition Cottinelli: "We are absolutely alternative to the civic one. This does not mean not to recognise the good things that have been done in these 5 years, also thanks to our activity in advice. I think, for example, of the work that we have completed to move the depurator of Holy Andrew to the countries in South of the Cathedral, outside the lived centres. An intelligent work of the CdL that the mayor has picked up, demonstrating like some things - if just for the country - be able to leave the political colour aside. On other things we do not share the statement of Rovato Civica, and then we fight such ideas. But we cannot forget that, objectively, these five years have related dignity to the rovatesi and to the country. That dignity that, in the last five years of Manenti, was lacking”.
Will a third list be born then? On the question, Martinelli is cautious but possibilist: "In these days tens and tens of sympathizers and militants of the coalition between centre and right-wing parties have testified to me their refusal to return with Manenti. Really this it has persuaded me to make this decision public. Perhaps so it will be possible which these energies unite, offering another possibility to our fellow citizens. I know that they are in this moment of the forces in movement, we will see what will happen”.
In the end, the final thrust: "The true problem has been the method of choice of this alliance. The electorates of CdL and Manenti are similar, but not equal. The truth - is conclusive Martinelli - is that if the electoral choices on the communal near ones had been taken from the local Strength vertices Italy, the candidate would not have been Alexander Conter, that puree is a respectable person.
And, as probably, also the alliance with Manenti would never have become a reality”
March 10th, 2007 to 2:30 pm
uh uh uh. this one so that it is a bomb.
it becomes the vow the list.
March 10th, 2007 to 3:04 pm
Great Martinelli, finally someone of the centre right hand that he speaks clearly. Does it continue so and you will have my vow martinelli because if you are of centre right moderatoa ROvato today thing you must do? to vote for an incuicioni list? manenti never, it is too tight martinelli
March 10th, 2007 to 7:23 pm
Vito to life
March 10th, 2007 to 8:36 pm
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March 10th, 2007 to 11:09 pm
I provoke martinelli. a serious, respectable person.
I have not voted cottinelli. but me rifuto of ovtare a neo-fascist ocme manenti.
they are of coalition between centre and right-wing parties, not a naziskin of new strength.
I hope for the new list to avoid being to house.
francesco
March 10th, 2007 to 11:17 pm
I boast martinelli.
I have not still understood in order that f.i. it is in hand red to aldo and conter.
you are a serious person and I wait of being able to vote for a centrodx list but serious.
otherwise, and I say it without fear, I - elector ‘94 of Strength Italy - in May will vote cottinelli.
on the contrary, the preference if the dò is introduced to luciana buffoli, that is a serious and disposable person with all, nn only in politics.
March 10th, 2007 to 11:22 pm
I was thinking that a similar thing should happen., in any case, the one who candidates outside the cdl helps objectively cottinelli.
it displeases me of this situation but I will vote for conter.
does anyone know what does Tuscans?
March 11th, 2007 to 12:52 am
Good Martinelli, finally someone understands something
March 11th, 2007 to 11:45 am
it was now!!!
it was certain that also first it was possible to avoid reaching to sta situation.
we propose as a candidate the one who after the defeat of 97 has not more seen himself, put ourselves with manenti what HAS DONE TO US TO EAT M. To ‘93 in then (I REMIND OF ME HIS COMMUNAL ADVICE. and what a lot of "respect" there was for the minorities!!!) and we claim to be a serious alternative to cottinelli (that has thousand flaws but it is the serious one, things as the people who has round, at least the civic ones).
now not to stop vittore.davvero.
forzista (s.anna)
March 11th, 2007 to 5:32 pm
With Martinelli or cottinelli it does not go away from any side. rovato it will always be the usual country in which on Sunday a rovatese will never be seen around but only immigrated!!!!!! wake up because to be SO MODERATE they are taking possession of the bars, of the roads and of the country in general. and this is not a racism but to defend the own land.
March 11th, 2007 to 5:39 pm
martinelli are our lighthouse in the night … … … … ….
March 11th, 2007 to 6:05 pm
@Nicola: but he looks that us does not take possession of a bar … he is bought
Besides even if Manenti was turning singly on the whole Sunday afternoon to Rovato, there would no be cmq any rovatese around!
To Rovato it has to make without making stopping other garlic of doing … c *** or I know about it that we open all the businesses, let's organise shows, it is necessary to attract the rovatesi outside of house!
March 11th, 2007 to 7:27 pm
I know that cooked in the near program it will throw the idea of the traps for rovatesi to lead in country on Sunday and to attract the rovatesi (these very hard people suddenly and a long time but with true heart) outside at the houses, which if only two chats are met and they do and is remembered what is known and love to each other also well. coming to less serious things, I vote for the civic one: about what regards the martinelli initiative I think that it should have been coherent and serious, even if strange is that there are the single one that thinks this that the whole country thinks: what need was of doing this hotchpotch and brushing up the old what already delivered to the history by that it has done. And above all I would want to be able, Alexander Conter done feeling, you do something, or between ten days we feel it still with the history of civic of left side and to repeat that you are the moderate ones, yourselves the moderated ones with the kalashnikov under the bed. In any case, even if I do not vote for it it is admitted Conter that puts giubbini on really trendy. Yeah bellboy! We come now to Cooked (what I will vote for), it is honest and it does the good from Rovato, or at least the according to good he, who is honest. This is enough for me. On certain things I would have wanted something of more durras and decisions undergone, but he is a diesel and now it seems to me that it has engaged.
was I forgetting Tuscans, by now also Who has seen him? it has filed the case. Piero but where are you? What happens? You has the spit gone for transverse member? Now that you have done the peace with your Robi, the one who has invented you.
It compliments to qst site.
Writing this message I have listened to Cristicchi.
March 11th, 2007 to 7:40 pm
they agree completely with Nicola.
Expensive Martinelli because you are not with Conter? Probably you are a Manenti follower, but No 2!
March 11th, 2007 to 9:27 pm
Big "avvolgitubo" you have completely summarised the situation!
Cottinelli has really worked for the country!!!
It has not followed, how instead of anyone he wants to do, his personal interests! As far as it regards the right hand, is it really a beautiful pie rich in personal interests and candied fruit …., really strange what only that is a single raprresentante of the thought rovatese?!?!?!
Well! the accounts are at once done, the citizens love to the country, who rappresente loves himself them ….
Nevertheless fortunately there it is Cooked!
March 12th, 2007 to 8:35 am
well, martinelli has only two possible reasons to have taken this decision: or he wants a money in order that an important seggiolina does not present a list only any more or for honesty spirit it has decided to be taken out at the great pie that arranged han the right hand incapable ones.
I appreciate the choice of a person who decides to go away these messes … it will be necessary to see what will do of concrete one …
as far as it regards cooked I believe that on his intellectual honesty there is nothing to say, believe that nobody could say that it has worked for second purposes or things of the family … believe that it has done the possible one to reactivate the centre, then if the rovatesi are like that fannulloni not to move the buttocks to go to centre but they prefer to crowd to the doors are not problems of cooked. it is to be done it still so much, for this ME I VOTE COOKED!
March 12th, 2007 to 8:48 am
I presuppose what the first time is that I see the site (it compliments to the one who realises it, above all because je gnari zuen de I am paes!!!) and then I leave oanch my commentary.
personally, in 2002 I have voted for Tuscans.
I suppose nevertheless that in these five years cooked it has not done badly: the square, some beautiful manifestations, the unvaried taxes, and the beautiful villa park cantù (I live in nearly them and beforehand I post that that it was an alive blasphemy).
now I meet again in list with the cdl (and then the league, my party of reference) with manenti. that is that what ten years to this part have done only devastate in country: it has split a section, that one of the league, between the strongest with the province: it has become alessandra's kind mussolini of the poor ones: it has disappeared at the country.
and must I vote for this person???
then I look at creed own of number with pleasure to the movements of martinelli (that is of strength italia, but she is a serious person who one is always engaged knows for s.andrea what for rovato). it might be the single one that will allow me not to vote, for the first time in twenty years of elezion, to vote for left-centrist (that is the civic one).
two lists remain to themselves. certainly I do not vote conter.
March 12th, 2007 to 8:59 am
well … it be said all by the one who has fought for s.andrea. let's not forget the sotria of the depurator. beforehand in cdl it has approved the plan, in 2000, for metre the depurator and they were not interested anything to append opposition. now that the depurator owes the municipality to itself must spend one more money to purchase another area, completely for guilt of good vittore. therefore we do not sell a product that is well but not eccezzionale. and then it has fought for the depurator because around it has hectares and hectares of property.
March 12th, 2007 to 10:19 am
el barto …. let lose that quite 700 signatures have been picked up in a few days of persons who had really motive of making moving the depurator and believe me this it has made the Cottinelli appreciated also from some sympathizers of centre a right hand!!! Then not to throw water dirties on well done works! He remembers that the first thing that will be Manenti and Conter if they will win, be that one of it to redo there really here to eat a money ….
Cottinelli has understood that, in any case, a depurator near in a lived centre, own behind to the station and in the zone in whom rovato is growing it was at madmen's! Since it was possible to do perfectly distanta at lived centres!
March 12th, 2007 to 10:45 am
I give you reason. I was saying that to the place of doing opposition when the area had already been destined, when it was, he inside the maggiornaza if he had the courage of being opposed had to be opposed them. because of this the municipality must spend our money to purchase another ground to cathedral. he had become counterburnt before the area was destined it would have done to us to save several money and not to sign all that that the chief wanted to make passing …
March 12th, 2007 to 5:14 pm
It answer Frank who is the simpaticone with do it to us. The people since it does to go out of house if the square is full of them, the bars NO COMMENT. and then. it has been seen also with the summer popular holidays that the ragazzine could not turn at sun because if you were participating in the holidays you were realising that those people are everywhere and above all the families do not trust, they are not tranquille.sicuramente manenti singly no but if the population would support it not much probably the country would live very much of the majority to itself!!!!
March 12th, 2007 to 6:45 pm
messages of the supporters of manenti: oldish you rape, violated mothers, children kidnapped to rovato. sin that itself atutto I distort members, are good to seem true here in Internet, but the reality is an other one.
March 12th, 2007 to 7:11 pm
yes avvolgituno and after what. if only the left side alien ones to Rovato … but rather of Manenti for the certainty I vote for Chack Norris
March 12th, 2007 to 10:49 pm
Expensive el barto, I have made inquiries and to the epoch Martinelli was in minority and he had organised a manifestation against the construction of the depurator …. then before firing to zero informed!
for whom does it support manenti:
it is it of avvero convinced that it is enough sostere manenti to hold faraway the extracommunity ones????!?!?!?
But let's try to be realists! the problem there is, but it is a problem much more wide, tied to the one who here earns on the immigration and to the one who allows the entrance of these persons, not to talk about the one who absolutely goes saving them in the middle of the sea ….
Then not all the extracommunity ones are delinquents! Mentioned here are many raped women, violated and I killed children also at Italians' then? Do it bright ideas it is enough to close the centre to them to decide?
Cottinelli has clearly demonstrated of the good follow without interest from our country and I believe that nobody wants to see to risk the own children.
the sheriff is simply a beautiful advertising trick for the one who here falls!
Let's try not to consider a just politics only because try to make us believe that with manenti to the certainty the problem extracommunity is solved!!! They want well other means to us, it is not so simple! And then what will it do???
Every quì his initiative to lead the citizens rovatesi to be well in their country? … … … ….Mah … … … ….?
March 13th, 2007 to 9:32 am
they are completely daccordo with amrtinelli.
I hope that it is not a soap bubble but that it undertakes, together with Tuscans and to other discontents of this chosen suicide of manenti, to create perhaps a third list of moderated THAT THEY WANT THE GOOD OF the COUNTRY.
You still do not force us to be to house or, worse, to vote for Cottinelli.perchè it is what will happen. so many people of centrodx, to the interior of the urn, would not choose certain manenti and his madness.
better not to share the choices of a serious person who must be ashamed as 97 in 2002, herself must additittura be justifying because manenti is kept by it of "centrodx".
vittore.
March 13th, 2007 to 10:30 am
BUONGIORNO TO ALL AND ALL. I INSERT HERE A DECLARATION OF THE SECRETARY OF THE LEAGUE NORTH ROVATO, DARIO FOGAZZI, SIGNALLED RESPONSIBLY ZONE OF THE CARROCCIO, FABIO BAIGUERA.
I AVOID OPENING ANOTHER POST-VISA THAT THE DISCUSSION IS UNWINDING LONG GIÀ THIS ARTICLE.
GOOD NAVIGATION ON ROVATO.ORG *
Declaration of the secretary of the section of Rovato Dario Fogazzi:
“The capodelegazione of the League North in the list of coalition between centre and right-wing parties that will support the candidature of Sandro Conter is Pierluigi Toscani.
The convergence on Sandro Conter is the result of the comparison between our section and the local sections of Strength Italy, AN, UDC, RS.
Each another voice in this connection is instrumental and a daughter of personal ambitions.”
March 13th, 2007 to 11:17 am
But because he does not say it Tuscans which Tuscans it supports Conter?
March 13th, 2007 to 2:02 pm
I would never have believed martinelli ably to much. I was thinking that it had not him. political attributes, instead I must admit of being made a mistake and return honour to him.
politically I vote udc, but rather of recognising myself in small arches (alias little murdoch of the franciacorta. proprietary of r.montorfano) and worse still in manenti that Sunday in May I go doing a circle to the lake.
at least with cottinelli there is no risk of finishing on tg5 the rifondaroli before the church to be protested rightly) against the "sentences" manentiane against the extracommunity ones.
do you remind of yourselves, conter, aldo red and C, of these things. truly???
lorenzo.
March 13th, 2007 to 6:42 pm
I manenti will never vote for it!!!
put it to you well in head …
piutosto I swear that ‘ndo sol lac de garda to ciapà el on!!!
Fogazzi, Tuscans. you forget the post-one ‘97 and 2002. I number.
member of a workers' association with the age of the stone!
March 13th, 2007 to 6:49 pm
you give martinelli.
I agree to 100 % on all that you have declared.
better cottinelli that manenti, even if I it will repent as for the rest of the life of having voted qlc with ds and varied Kompagni.
March 13th, 2007 to 7:32 pm
but you realise electors centre right hand as me our single objective must be to send to house COTTINELLI. and to do it we unite with Manenti. sincerely I prefer he assesore of the certainty what a group of companions while being able (Berardi, vaccarezza, Shuts. And other many people). then nn to do stronzate. beforehand let's send Vittore to house Cottinelli and this sleeve of incopetenti. then we will discuss!!!!!!!!!
March 13th, 2007 to 7:52 pm
“Beforehand do we send to house qst sleeve of incompetent ones and then do we discuss?” It is required to to discuss post factum it is really heavy, a total impoverishment of the politics, what in all that “management of the thing publishes” should be based BEFOREHAND on the debate and on the arguments to be shown and THEN on the whole rest, understood political adversaries!
And if here it adds the fact to this that the important one is to send to house other, infischiandosene also of a bit of personal coherence (the experience manentiana had not been perhaps definite “authoritative and Fascist”?), well we are approaching the fruit … dry.
March 14th, 2007 to 8:07 am
Boys … everything can call itself of manenti but not what should be competent
March 14th, 2007 to 9:14 am
Vittore not to do foolishness!
what do you want to do with a list improvvista? the single result at which you can arrive is to manage to present to cottinelli and to the left-centrist's parties a municipality where the coalition between centre and right-wing parties has further 60 % of the vows.
March 14th, 2007 to 9:54 am
“silvio to life”. I, always antiKompagna, tell you that I feel more far at me one "original" personage as Manenti that a Cottinelli!
have I understood that is supported also by Ds and Margaret. but Manenti?
does he you remind of them the fishes in face that we have (Cdl I lead the League) taken from 97 in 2002????? does he remind of them you???
and then I am not so convinced that a possible moderate list of coalition between centre and right-wing parties (more I hit the centre of which right hand) would obtain few vows. according to me instead it would not be like that!
let's have resuscitated a "dead man" (politically, it is charo), that is MANENTI!
In order that?? I still do not understand it.
March 14th, 2007 to 10:48 am
I see an interventions crowd against the parties that support Cottinelli. As I like to think about the reality of every day of our municipality and not national discussions I say that the DS and Margaret of the civic present one has worked much but much good. They have provided for the faults of the independent ones and have certainly helped to improve the country that has proved to be normal after 9 years of absurdity and personalism.
Someone instead prefers to denigrate the experience of Rovato Civica only because party people see in her. But what has there these people? The lepra?
I know all the "party ones" at present in administration and there do not seem to me absolutely bad ogres. On the contrary. They seem to me honest persons and who have worked hardly and solidly with few recognition for the profuse engagement.
If there is the one who prefers to vote for Manenti after having tried it 9 years and after having had porvato this one civic for 5 years do it also. But stop it with the monferrina of the "sinistrorse ones". In these 5 last years it is the facts that they speak for these people, not the rounds in station or the grounds of the friends made suitable for building.
March 14th, 2007 to 11:16 am
. in fact the FEARFUL MONSTER of the station han built the companions sovetici. ah no: you have made him build to the same “friends of the friends”, who in this case are (or they would be?) the “friends of your enemies”!!!!
they are not here secret. thanks to Kompagno Bassanini for the accessibility to the public acts, included supplemented plans.
stella*rossa
March 14th, 2007 to 12:41 pm
Any supplemented plan foresees a diffusion of the intention to realise a public work from the administration without any type of subterfuge.
Any private citizen who keeps interestingly to realise it stop that asks for a rendezvous and does his proposal. Game forces that wins the best proposal.
Nevertheless when I had not shared the whole cited supplemented plan (and I refer to the thirty-year convention) I mind the data actually.
Rovato has solved great part of the problem it parks in station with an expense for the pendular ones that consists in a monthly subscription at 0.5 Euro IN the DAY, with the kept car, in contrast to all that it is to the old ditch. The sanitary garrison in road Montesuello is moved stopping paying the rent in that seat and diverting the number on the respect of the convention. This new seat will be able to hold services of the ASL (as well as the only cited garrison) that they will spare so many rovatesi of must go to Clear.
To but this had already escaped.
As it had escaped of who there were the past grounds suitable for building agricultural to the Cathedral of Rovato in the period 1993-2002.
Or as it has escaped with which manner there have been acquired the old elementary schools of the Cathedral and whom.
Attention that to joke with the fire here it is possible to burn ….
March 14th, 2007 to 6:04 pm
You go Vittore!
March 14th, 2007 to 7:44 pm
But reading the newspapers of some days ago it does not seem to me that the ASL and the Municipality of Clear ones move important services Clear, (on the contrary they do not move even the Guard of Finance) if not the present veterinary service already become localised in Rovato, then expensive xxx not to make the wiseacre alone because you know “party at present in administration absolutely bad not ogres.
On the contrary in face honest persons and who have worked hardly and solidly with few recognition for the profuse engagement”, we will give them also a recognition, fundamental is to deserve them him an expensive xxx.
March 15th, 2007 to 7:14 am
The most expensive Mark, I do not pose wiseacre absolutely, tell only when I know the things. Be on the ASL on which on the Guard of Finance it looks to me you are rather misinformed.
Checchè it writes in the newspaper the mayor about Clear ones the Finance guard it moves to Rovato. What you have read him the day before yesterday is relative to the barracks of the carabineers that her Up to-Concrete erigerà in his discarded quarry, NOT the guard of finance.